Quotes by Howard Zinn
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there are a thousand possibilities
Submitted by antarchi on July 11, 2009 - 17:28We’ve got to rethink this question of war and come to the conclusion that war cannot be accepted, no matter what the reasons given, or the excuse: liberty, democracy; this, that. War is by definition the indiscriminate killing of huge numbers of people for ends that are uncertain. Think about means and ends, and apply it to war. The means are horrible, certainly. The ends, uncertain. That alone should make you hesitate.
Once a historical event has taken place, it becomes very hard to imagine that you could have achieved a result some other way. When something is happening in history it takes on a certain air of inevitability: This is the only way it could have happened. No.
We are smart in so many ways. Surely, we should be able to understand that in between war and passivity, there are a thousand possibilities.
hold on to that dream
Submitted by antarchi on May 18, 2009 - 12:28Some people might say, "Well, what do you expect?"
And the answer is that we expect a lot.
People say, "What, are you a dreamer?"
And the answer is, yes, we're dreamers. We want it all. We want a peaceful world. We want an egalitarian world. We don't want war. We don't want capitalism. We want a decent society.
We better hold on to that dream-because if we don't, we'll sink closer and closer to this reality that we have, and that we don't want.
bombing dresden
Submitted by antarchi on July 23, 2007 - 03:23Winston Churchill, who was Prime Minister when the city of Dresden was indiscriminately saturated with fire-bombs in February 1945, leaving 135,000 dead, and who had approved the general strategy of bombing urban areas, confined himself to this comment in his memoirs: 'We made a heavy raid in the latter month on Dresden, then a centre of communications of Germany's Eastern front.'
we could not see torn bodies
Submitted by antarchi on February 21, 2008 - 16:04We might think that at least those individuals in the U.S. Air Force who dropped bombs on civilian populations were aware of what terror they were inflicting, but as one of those I can testify that this is not so. Bombing from five miles high, I and my fellow crew members could not see what was happening on the ground. We could not hear screams or see blood, could not see torn bodies, crushed limbs. Is it any wonder we see fliers going out on mission after mission, apparently unmoved by thoughts of what they have wrought.
what did we win?
Submitted by antarchi on December 23, 2007 - 02:42We know now that perhaps 600,000 civilians - men, women, and children - died in the bombings of Europe. And an equal number died in the bombings of Japan. What could possibly justify such carnage? Winning the war against Fascism? Yes, we "won". But what did we win? Was it a new world? Had we done away with Fascism in the world, with racism, with militarism, with hunger and disease? Despite the noble words of the United Nations charter about ending "the scourge of war" - had we done away with war?
the neighbourhood bully
Submitted by antarchi on October 14, 2007 - 19:25Let us agree first, the Cambodians did not behave wisely. It is unwise to take even a single marble from the neighbourhood bully - he might smash your head in. And even if you bloody his nose a bit, he will prance all over the block, claiming a huge victory, confident now that no others will dare steal a marble, since they might have an eye gouged out just to teach them a lesson.
you know that innocent people will die
Submitted by antarchi on July 23, 2007 - 03:07when you plant a bomb in a discotheque, the death of bystanders is deliberate; when you drop bombs on a city, it is accidental. We can ease our conscience that way, but only by lying to ourselves. Because, when you bomb a city from the air, you know, absolutely know, that innocent people will die.

